looking at president clinton's second term, from balanced budgets to a defensive marriage act, balanced welfare, probably among the most conservative presidents since calvin cooli e coolidge. i want defer to him and certainly given the fact he was impeached i would defer to president clinton on who's being dishonest or not. he's clearly more of a subject. >> i got the backhanded compliment. you sucker punch the guy but that's not my question. the question is, the essence of what he's saying today, not 12 years ago, not before the game, the game today, as he has described bill clinton describing mitt romney yesterday, what is your take on the man i'm assuming romney you the conservative will vote for and i say assume because i don't know where you go on this. you have stated that you despise mitt romney even though you're a conservative. >> well, i would -- you know, i want to go back to something my peer on the panel here, politico, they have an article quoting the pro-life leaders quoting romney saying he's given promises to do things on the issue. if that's true and what they're sayin